Canucks Interested in Signing Schroeder
A report out of Canada today says that the Vancouver Canucks are interested in signing Minnesota's Jordan Schroeder and having him play a year in the WHL, rather than going back for his sophomore year at the University of Minnesota.
I think putting him in the WHL would be a waste. Schroeder is probably good enough that he could make the Canucks this year. But this would be a huge blow to Minnesota if they lost one of their top players so close to the start of the season.
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Holy Crap!
Here we go again. You talk to anyone that has played major juniors and they will tell you that they would get there ass kicked by any major college program, period! The only difference up there is they play more games. If the Canucks are interested in signing him, that is great, but if they want to sign him and tell him to play in the WHL, that is a bunch of crap. I have friends that are NHL scouts and we have had this discussion before. They tell me every time that if you are good enough to play in the NHL, you will play in the NHL, no matter where you are playing. With this scenario, going up to the WHL is not a step up for Jordan.
just like any player playing canadian college would kick the crap out of both the whl and ncaa. it’s because they are older by as much as 3-4 years. only difference is playing ncaa for 4 years your less likely to be a pro. i know there are exceptions but schools are loyal to players sticking it out for 4 years rather then to hot shot prospects who may leave after 1 or 2. it’s about development and ice time not which team would win more games.
gofalcons & the fut
You guys are both right… one thing I disagree with is the canadian schools beating the NCAA… a lot of these canadian teams come down and play say the gophers or North Dakota as an exibition game first part of season and get smoked. We have to remember like programs like Gophers and Sioux etc…these teams are getting the top recruits in the country. As far as WHL, OHL or the QHL, these kids do not stand a chance against NCAA teams. These college kids are 19-20 year old freshman and most of them are graduating by the age of 24 years old. The major junior teams are consisting of 16-20 year olds, there is no comparison, NCAA will win every time. Here is a good example: This year alone the Gophers have roughly 20 kids drafted by NHL teams. Now you tell me people if your major junior team is going to beat them, not a chance in hell! Kelowna alone had 8 kids drafted by NHL teams entering the Memorial Cup…also remember these teams that are going to have a strong shot at making the memorial cup run, they end up trading draft picks to load there team up to win. So starting out, it is far less NHL draft picks! End of story!
No comparison. It is like a jr B team versus a midget minor AAA team. College has older stronger kids, BUT of far inferior skill. Look at the draft. Where are the 1st and 2nd rounders coming from? CHL. College players do not compare skill wise. The Hobey Baker Award is given to the BEST college hockey player each year. Someone tell me the last HB winner to have an impact at the NHL level? Lemieux, Gretzky, Orr, Crosby, Messier, Sakic ring a bell? The average CHL team has at least 3-4 times the NHL draft picks that a US college does. 47% Of the draft comes from the CHL. Bottom line: CHL has far superior talent and is the better path for NHL track kids. College is the best path for a late bloomer like Gilroy (best player in college hockey this year) who will have a modest AHL career when it is all said and done.
Wickedsmart
You are wicked dumb. The NCAA has inferior skills? Way to make a blanket statement. Since we’re discussing a Gopher player here, let’s use the Gophers as an example…
3 – 1st rounders
3 – 2nd rounders
3 – 3rd rounders
4 – 4th rounders
3 – 6th rounders
2 – 7th rounders
Talentwise, this group outclasses Windsor. Add that to the fact that they are two years older on average… there’s just no comparison. Your credibility is even more destroyed than it was before.
Make that four first rounders if Shroeder stays
Leddy
Schroeder
Fischer
White
Budish
Sacchetti
Hoeffel
…all in the first two rounds.
by The Exiled One on Aug 21, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha! You overlooked one small factor in your inane comparison between the Windsor Spits and your beloved MN Garden Rats…AGE! A number of players on each OHL team are not even draft eligible until 2010. Windsor had 13 NHL draft picks on their team this year, with 3 becoming eligible in 2010 including next year’s number one pick overall.
Oh, and how did that ALL-STAR MN team do this year?! A meager 5th place in the WCHA? No playoff appearance? Where is the “state of hockey” again?
by wickedsmart on Aug 21, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
i am an avid fan of college hockey but this is a losing argument for NCAA hockey. The numbers dont lie and they are what they are. The CHL has the better track record of placing players in he NHL. I do believe, if the NCAA champion played the Memorial Cup Champion, NCAA would win 75% of the time, especially if a teams like BU, which is was as good as an AHL team last year, keeps winning National Championships. But you mention how minnesota has 18 draft picks. But Windsor, the memorial cup champion have 20 draft picks/ future guaranteed draft picks and free agent NHL signings.
1. Josh Bailey 1st (future star)
2. Taylor Hall future 1st (future star)
3. Adam Henrique 3rd
4. Lane MacDermid 4th
5. Richard Greenop F.A. signed w/ Toronto
6. Justin Shugg 2010 eligible
7. Austin Watson future 1st (future star)
8. Greg Nemisz 1st (future star)
9. Eric Wellwood 6th
10. Dale Mitchell 3rd
11. Scott Timmins 6th
12. Andrei Loktionov 5th (future star)
13. Ryan Ellis 1st (future star)
14. Rob Kwiet F.A. signed w/ Boston
15. Jesse Blacker 2nd
16. Ben Shutron 4th
17. Mark Cundari F.A. signed w/ St. Louis
18. Harry Young 7th
19. Josh Unice
20. Steve Gleeson
Plus they added future 1st rounder for the 2010 draft defenseman Cam Fowler and 2nd rounder Richard Panik. I’d take anyone from Windsor’s team over anyone over the Minnesota Golden Gophers.

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