CCHA Denies Huntsville
by WCHBlog on Aug 11, 2009 2:43 PM PDT
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PrintThe CCHA has denied Alabama-Huntsville's application to join the CCHA, leaving UAH's program in jeopardy.
I honestly can't understand why they would do that. The move effectively kills hockey at Huntsville and leaves the CCHA at an uneven 11 teams--unless the CCHA has a feeling they'll be losing another team soon. Even still, with college hockey struggling to expand, it seems awfully foolish to let an existing program just fade away. Hopefully there is more to this story and it has a better ending.
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Huntsville
I will tell you why it got denied, cause it is a bad program. Do you bring in a another college team just for the sake of bringing it in, I mean come on! Yeah business wise it might make sense, and getting an even 12 teams blah blah. Why would the CCHA want to bring in Huntsville, so fans can go and watch a game where it is consistent 10-1 ass pounding. I have no problem expanding teams in college hockey but lets be serious here, they need to bring in universities where they can compete in that league, Huntsville would never be able to do that. Just like Bemidji and UNO, Bemidji is going to get pounded in the WCHA. UNO will probably do allright just cause they have Dean Blais, and his name carries a lot of weight in hockey, so they might get some top recruits. Bemidji will never make the NCAA’s ever again, they better of enjoyed there last trip last year.
That has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I have read. The CCHA is already stuffed with bottom feeders like NMU, WMU, LSSU, BGSU, FSU and OSU; I don’t why they can’t compete with those schools. The coach for Danton Cole UAH actually won an NCAA title as a member of the Michigan State Spartans. It’s not like Cole is some hack without and hockey knowledge. Danton Cole is one of the FEW hockey players to win an NCAA title as well as a Stanley Cup.
Not a good day
I see that UAH is going to regroup and figure out other options, but I’m hard pressed to find an option that’s beneficial…
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 11, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions
Brutal
Absolutely brutal decision by the CCHA willing to let a program go to waste and potentially die off. It’s also shameful that the CCHA decided to protect their member schools by not yet divulging the results of the vote to see who said yes or no and get to the root of the matter and hear why things shook out like this.
The CCHA might think they’re doing the right thing for themselves, but they’re doing the absolute wrong thing for college hockey.
It’s nice to see that the CCHA prefers “scheduling headaches” to doing something that is definitely in the best interest of the sport.
The funny thing is that plenty of CCHA supporters were waiting for the WCHA to make their move, claiming for years that the WCHA should admit Bemidji so the program didn’t die off. I wonder how they feel now that their league is going to have blood on its hands if UAH goes away.
And SCSU helps the WCHA bottom line how?
SCSU Hockey makes at minimum $85,000 a year more than it would if UAA weren’t a conference member. That’s a lotta “crap” that UAA brings to the league. Ask Wisconsin who makes at least $200,000 extra a year because UAA is in the league.
Do you think SCSU can recoup what is probably half of their hockey profits?
You can react and spew whatever you want because you think I’m an asshole … but allowing that to “cloud” your judgement about what is best for your program is just STOOPID. UAA’s inclusion in the WCHA is VERY healthy for SCSU’s bottom line. Your ongoing petty grievances with me and my style are really and truly funny though.
Don’t like seeing your team play extra games at home that don’t count against the NCAA scheduling limit eh? Ok then … UAA to the CCHA so that SCSU makes 85K less a year!
I’m an admitted asshole … but it’s definitely preferable to being a fool.
Funny thing is, the only thing you focused on is the almighty dollar. Does it matter that not many WCHA fans will actually care if UAA leaves? That may seem to be a much bigger issue to focus on if you are a UAA fan, which most of the hockey world isn’t anyway.
For administrations, sure, UAA leaving would hurt somewhat financially (although I believe it would be less impact than what you drone on about), but again, would anybody care? IF a tree falls and you don’t hear it, did it really make any sound at all?
Most of the hockey world not UAA fans? Say it ain't so ..... OMG!! I'm fretting now ...
Why I bother to answer a couple of stalking trolls like you two (yes dear readers … both of these jerks used to visit my blog as much as a dozen times a day) eludes me but ….
You might sit around and fret when people tease the sorry assed SCSU team for it’s 0-fer in the NCAA’s. Me? I couldn’t care any less what douche-bags like you think about whether UAA should leave the league or what your perceptions are regarding their history/performance in the WCHA.
You (and morons like you) have no sense of what competition is about. You have no understanding of what inter-collegiate atheltics is all about. You think in professional terms about an amateur sport. It’s actually a disservice to the athletes at your school to have fools like you cheering for them.
I want my school in a league with the other Alaska school so that together they than can try to ensure a long term course of success without some group of provincially-minded greedy assholes taking advantage of our geographic disadvantage. With both Alaska schools in one conference both UAA and UAF can watch out for their own best interest. If this round of expansion has taught us anything it is that each and every school (and conference) looks out for their self-interest far and away more than giving a crap about anyone else.
I can back up my assertions about the dollars that UAA brings to the table for the other WCHA teams. Can you back up your statement that the figures I “drone on about” are wrong? No? I didn’t think so.
Good luck to the Gopher Junior’s this season.
How the F do you know what I think?? Oh yeah, your the hammer and sickle dude who controls other people’s thoughts by trying to tear down anything else that is negatively said about the MIGHTY seapups (and deleting said posts off you thing you call a blog). So, how is that attendance up there? Lots of green seats in the area you sit in? I thought so.
So, did you go to the scool that you chee for? Hmmm, I guess us real alumni fans (yes, most of us SCSU morons actually went to said school) do care abou collegiate athletics. Hence, it is why we cheer for our college hockey team. But you go ahead and keep spewing what we REALLY are thinking (since you know all, master) about college vs pro sports, if it keeps your noodle satisfied.
I guess I’ll not have to look far from the bottom of the WCHA standings to find the UAA Seawolves AGAIN. Just think, after next year, instead of being in 9th or 10th place, you’ll likely be in 11th or 12th place…congrats!
UAA to the CCHA!
Ooh, your school adds money and extra games. Big whoop. If you had a shot to compete in the league, oh say for hone ice, I may care. Fact is the only thing your school is good for is money and it was the only way they were going to get into the league and it’s the only way they stay in the league. You want to advocate a move to the CCHA and say F the WCHA, go right ahead. Other than the bottom line, not one school or it’s fans would miss you and your status as league doormat. It’s really sad when the only thing you can claim to be good for in the league is you enable the schools that kick your ass to make more money.
CCHA
The CCHA seems to be pouting because UNO chose the WCHA. Let’s face it the WCHA took on Bemidji because the CHA was folding. But to avoid the “nightmare of scheduling 11 teams” actively solicited UNO.
Now the “scheduling nightmare” belongs to the CCHA. Or do they anticipate or plan dropping another league member to achieve symmetry? Or are the members cutting off UAH’s survival to spite the rest of college hockey?
Yes I agree that Western, Northern, Ferris, and OSU are constantly at the bottom…so that means we bring in an even worse team in Hunstsville so we can watch some really bad hockey. Are we trying to improve the game of college hockey or we just adding teams for the sake of it cause it makes good profits for everyone. Personally I am not going to go watch Bowling Green against Huntsville or anyone of those other teams that you mentioned. Not sure about you but I like to watch a good game of hockey.
12 times a day?
Man, have they graduated from rehab? I am a UAA fan and still only check DD’s blog twice, maybe thrice a day. And, no our team as never competed for hone ice.
Donald, Donald, Donald.....
Leave it to the banned DTP to once again exaggerate the truth. 12 times a day? Maybe 12 times year to read your drivel and mostly when I need a good laugh or to check up on how much the caribou miss you.
No one is saying your figures are wrong Donald, we are saying no one cares. Bottom line is the bottom line would survive without UAA and the competition would get better without UAA. Not one fan who isn’t a UAA fan would miss UAA so go ahead and advocate your school’s move, maybe you can even get a meeting with the school’s president to plead your case. But do make sure to wear something better than a burlap sack and make sure you have removed the caribou dick from your ass.
Personally I thought competition was about winning, something UAA not only can’t do, but will never do. Money is all well and good, and for professional sports teams, most of the time, that is what it’s about. But for some, winning is still the one thing that matters in a “it’s ok, you tried” sports world.
Oh and seawolvesfan, if you’re going to make a crack on a spelling mistake, make sure you didn’t make one yourself.
As for the actual topic at hand here, reading the CCHA’s reasoning for denying UAH is a joke, but hey I don’t expect much from administrators these days.
Dude, are you serious?
“Ooh, your school adds money and extra games. Big whoop. If you had a shot to compete in the league, oh say for hone ice, I may care.”
Reading comprehension must not exist up there....
Read what I said again genius. Yes I made a spelling mistake, didn’t say I didn’t.
You also made a spelling/grammar mistake.
“And, no our team as never competed for hone ice.”
The correct word would be has, not as. So as I said, if you are going to crack on a mistake, make sure you didn’t make one yourself.
by The Rabid One on Aug 16, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Really?
What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Keep your personal pissing match to yourselves.
Down there must not have common sense.....
“Fact is the only thing your school is good for is money and it was the only way they were going to get into the league and it’s the only way they stay in the league.”
I mispelled on purpose to crack you.
And, as for competing for home ice: Your team (SCSU?) finished a measly 5 points ahead us in 9th place. League doormat=Only 2 wins and a tie away from being right behind you in 7th place……League doormat=Beating 9 teams in the WCHA, versus your 7……League doormat=Spilt two game seris against your team last season?
Cracked logic?
I’m done aruging, and I’ll see whose all ‘high and mighty" after we spilt our seris up here ,and done in Minnesoda………And seriously that’s how you spell it……..
Bruce .. The Answer Is ...
The exact number of times that SCSU has won an NCAA game.
Which would coincidentally be the same number of times that your Bulldogs beat UAA in 4 games last season.
Z E R O …
And the new question is Donald
When was the last time UAA was actually in the NCAA tournament? 92?
And yeah, teams split series up in Alaska, most good teams are able to sweep home series. Something SCSU knows all about when playing UAA, who is a nice 0-fer in the NHC.
I fully expect UAA to beat SCSU in the NHC at some point , just as I expect SCSU to win an NCAA tournament game. But if you seapup fans really want to crack on tourney wins, how bout you get back to the tournament and get a shot at winning one? And to do that, you’ll need to do what you’ve never done, compete in the WCHA and actually get home ice.
by The Rabid One on Aug 16, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The REAL answer is...
If the genius UAA fan was actually answering Bruce’s question, the correct answer would be the year before last, when we swept the drunken Sconnies at home and made our way to the Final Five. Or the year before that when we beat UMD at home and also made our way to the FInal Five. Accurate answers elude UAA fans.
Er, Deejer, Bruce’s question was when was the last time UAA had home ice, not St. Cloud.
by Runninwiththedogs on Aug 18, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly ... Genius ...
Or compete in the CCHA.
The richest in the WCHA only get richer. UND, Minnesota, Wisconsin and DU will all have down years once in a great while. 3 or 4 other schools will manage to work themselves up the standings (enough to satiate their fans regardless of NCAA record). And all 8 of those schools don’t compete with UAA on even terms. The ice was tilted from the day UAA joined. Splitting the Alaska teams back then guaranteed that neither would succeed in their respective leagues. It split up a potential voting block.
Use your brain for once … Do you think if UAA and UAF were in the same conference (either the WCHA or CCHA) that they’d STILL be subsidizing airfare for teams who ARE ALREADY compensated for their travel through the NCAA’s Alaska/Hawaii Exemption? The NCAA adopted the rule so that schools traveling to Alaska and Hawaii would be able to recoup the costs of having to travel to the boondocks. Yet because they each are alone they have NO power to stop doing so. With both of them in the same league they’d be able to work together to at least try and ensure a truly level playing surface. It’s probably pipe dream stuff to imagine it would ever happen. Because it won’t. The powers that be are quite happy to receive the continuing largess from their association with the Alaska schools.
For UAA that hole is probably close to 40K a year that they shouldn’t be providing. It’s not a huge chunk at a state university that honestly isn’t under budget scrutiny. But having an extra 40K is worth advocating. And an official exploration of moving from the WCHA to the CCHA at minimum would result in an end to the travel subsidies that UAA pays.
Both the CCHA and the WCHA are provincially-ruled and anything positive for freaking god-awful stinky bad bad Alaska teams ain’t getting done when UAA and UAF only have one vote in their league.
I really wanted UAF in the WCHA. But the province of Minnesota won out. So I’m willing and happy now to advocate that UAA move to the CCHA. I’m more than happy to take my team to fight the good fight against the Michigan cabal instead. UAA and UAF will have more success together in a league. That’s why it will probably never happen. Fair play says it ought to. But self-interest overrides fair play.
Don’t think for a second I don’t realize you have no sense of what I’m talking about. You don’t. Reasonable readers though will understand that UAA under Shyiak has been progressing improving and becoming a team that people like the illustrious “Puck Swami” says “Other teams hate playing UAA because UAA has the ability to beat anyone in the league on any given night”. The Seawolves are no where near as hapless as your reactionary emotional false rhetoric attempts to describe.
But of course you know this already since you’ve read every word of my blog (probably more than once) and there has been a long recent discussion of exactly these things. And before you bring it up again … yes .. it was marred by a brutal deletion of a comment by me! Omg. Wows. And just so you know. I won’t respond to you in this comment string again.
